Unpicking propaganda

Manchester Evening News, 13/07/2025

As someone of a certain age I and my age group did not have the measles, mumps, chicken pox or rubella jabs because they were not available. I can therefore tell you from my first hand experience

1. These diseases exist. For the “down the rabbit-hole” conspiracy theorists please note I said “diseases” not “viruses”, if you’re unsure what I meant by that please find a dictionary and look the word up because I’ve wasted endless amounts of time with 30 something dimwits who believe 7 year old children can come out in identical sympathy rashes or that I’m lying when I said I had all of the above diseases.

2. They are very, very contagious. Most people under 30 wouldn’t believe how contagious.

3. They are absolutely harmless in the vast majority of cases if you look at the data from health authorities. In fact some people believe they are important in kick-starting the immune system and they confer life-long immunity.

4. We still have these diseases in the UK, so while vaccination might prevent many from having symptoms, even vaccine companies will tell you that for the vaccine to work you have to “catch” the disease. Vaccines do NOT stop you catching any disease. Ever. Don’t believe anyone who says they do.

5. Any death of a child is a tragedy and my sympathy goes out to the parents at what must be a terrible time for them

Now we’ve covered most of the “screaming-reply” cases (as I call them), on with the story to see what they are trying to do. Note the headline

Under the banner of health we are told two children have died in the UK with acute measles in the last ten years. Note “with” not “because of”. Measles is a disease which has the worst effect on those with damaged or weakened immune systems, i.e. people already seriously ill. The next section confirms this and misleads you at the same time.

Note “from measles”. There is no way they have the knowledge to say that, especially when the next paragraph says “it is understood”, so not confirmed “they were suffering from measles and are believed” again, not known “to have had additional health complications”.

Let’s take the “2 children in 10 years” stat and put it into context too shall we? In a freedom of information request I found the following paragraph appears in reply to a question about the number of people dying from Covid jabs

Deaths involving COVID-19 vaccination

We regularly publish data on deaths by leading causes in our Monthly Mortality Analysis. These data are driven by information collected from the death certificate at death registration. Table 14 shows deaths involving COVID-19 vaccines causing adverse effects in therapeutic use. You can see from this that the number of deaths involving COVID-19 vaccines causing adverse effects in therapeutic use from March 2020 up to December 2022 in England was 59 deaths, 51 of which had this cause listed as the underlying cause. In Wales, there was one death, which was also listed as the underlying cause. Additionally, these figures are broken down by age in table 15. An update for our Monthly Mortality Analysis will be published on 23 February 2023.

That’s 60 deaths in 2 years in England and Wales where the vaccine was the underlying cause. Maybe we should be concerned about that?

The story continues

Public health officials are increasingly concerned about the number of children being treated for measles at Alder Hey, fearing the virus could take hold and "spread like wildfire". Reports from The Times suggest that Merseyside may be on the brink of an outbreak.

The link takes you through to another article which informs us

According to gov.uk data, in 2024 there were 2,911 laboratory confirmed measles cases in England, the highest number of cases recorded annually, since 2012.

Is that a lot of cases? In 1961 there were 763,561 notified cases in England and Wales so I’d say no. In 1994 after the jab was introduced and had worked its way through the system 16,375 cases. Three thousand cases is nothing. And if you look back before the vaccine was available you’ll see massive variation in the cases - In 1960 for instance there were 159,364 cases whereas in 1959 there were 539,524. Nobody knows why this happens, maybe a wetter spring and autumn, maybe just the case most available kids caught it the year before, variation is completely natural.

The next paragraph appears in both articles which implies this is a campaign, not a story

Dr Merav Kliner, Deputy Director for UKHSA North West, said: “Measles is one of the most highly infectious diseases and spreads rapidly among those who are unvaccinated. It can be a serious infection that can lead to complications especially in young children and those with weakened immune systems.

Yes, it really is very infectious. Back in the old days one kid would come out in spots and be sent home, but then another and another would come down with it later in the week. It wasn’t that unusual to have two or three kids off at a time in a class of 30 of the 5-9 year olds.

You can also catch measles multiple times (as I did), the same is true with chickenpox. But as we know an infectious “disease” is also one that tends to be mild because immunity is so wide spread to it. A disease that is infectious and highly dangerous to the population because they have no immunity tends to wipe out those who get it (see native Americans for an example). Again, if you don’t believe you can catch illnesses you’d have to explain the deaths of millions of Americans when they came in contact with Europeans - Sympathetic dying off of millions is NOT a sensible response.

The next paragraphs tell us the aim of the health board in pushing these stories

“With declines in childhood vaccine uptake, including MMR, observed in many countries around the world over the last decade, exacerbated by the COVID-19 pandemic, we are now seeing the impact of this with large measles outbreaks globally including recently in Europe and England last year.”

Why would vaccine uptake in “many countries” affect measles rates in the UK? Because we are importing measles in the migrants we bring in, just as we import TB.

Note the order TB cases are displayed in the in the graphic below -

Not alphabetical, not in number of cases, not in per hundred thousand of the population. I don’t believe this can be anything other than a deliberate attempt to disguise the causes of TB in the UK. The highest rate is in London, followed by West Midlands, then East Midlands, then the North West. Source

We used to live in the East End and my children had to have TB jabs at a very early age due to the higher incidence of TB in the local population, which has a large Bangladeshi element.

The article confirms the above

"We are concerned that we will see more measles outbreaks, especially over the summer months as families with unvaccinated children and adults travel to countries where diseases are endemic or outbreaks are occurring.”

“That is why it is important that anyone travelling for summer holidays or to visit family, especially parents of young children, check that all members of their family are up to date with all their vaccines, especially MMR vaccines.”

Where is measles endemic?

To sum up, they want more of the ethnic minorities to go and get vaccinated, but can’t possibly say that.

There is no major outbreak of measles in the UK and measles isn’t usually a dangerous disease at all, unless you have a compromised immune system or are already seriously ill. My two year old caught it and never even noticed they had it.

Measles is a like having a cold and a bit of a temperature in the vast majority of cases, and resulted in a lot of tv watching and comic reading. Chickenpox is itchy but was even milder in my experience. Rubella was a bit worse than measles but can lead to blindness in unborn children. Mumps was far worse and I had mine over Christmas which was bloody awful because I didn’t feel like eating anything and I had a father who did not believe in children eating ice cream (weird). If your children get ill take them to the doctors, that’s what they are for. They should diagnose it correctly and spot serious cases but I had two incidents in my direct family where doctors mis-diagnosed measles and that was when it was a very common disease. If your child is ill and the doctor says otherwise seek a second opinion.

I’m glad I got these diseases as a child because I got days off watching “Fingerbobs” and “Camberwick Green” and reading, all of which I highly recommend for your children. And it means I have natural immunity for life (hopefully), unlike those who get the jabs.

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